![]() ![]() But the 300 BO info my be useful to the OP. When I shoot super sonic which is typically 16 to 18 grains of Unique or 2400 or maybe Trail Boss I always use a LRP.īut I use 13gr of Unique in my 500 S&W with LPP and they work perfectly. I have used the LPP in 30-30 cast loads too and they worked fine. When I did load developed the groups varied but none were larger than 2.5" which is plenty good enough for a 8" target. As long as the ammo can shoot accurately enough to stay on the steel that's fine. Our match target is a 8" round steel swinger. They worked just fine and at 50 yards I never noticed a difference in accuracy. Naturally it does not work the action but that's good because we don't want to be chasing brass anyway.īack when primers were scarce I needed to conserve my LRP for full power loads so I tried LPP in my 54R sub-sonic cast loads. 50 yards is the range of our sub-sonic cast competition shoots so this is most important. So far I've only shot groups at 50 yards. I haven't loaded any small primer rifle except for 300 BO and I'm using standard SRP in them. if they dont work will i thought about trying to anneal the bullets to see if the soften up at all. these seemed like the best candidates and ill test them soon. i found that the Hornady 55 grain soft point has the thinnest jacket of all the bullets i tested (0.010" thick) meaning it might expand better at lower speeds, and the Speer 52 grain hollow point had the second thinnest jacket (0.015" thick) along with a wide hollow point and a very large hollow cavity. i also took a file to a few bullets to see which ones i think would expand well. but i have found one thanks to "Buffman_LT1" by "Maker bullets" i think it was just called "expanding subsonic" on their website ( looks like a Leigh Defense "maximum expansion" bullet). I have done a fare amount of research on different 223 bullets and its hard to find any that will expand at subsonic speeds. So basically it would have to be a "special purpose" bullet and there is no market for it.Ĭast powder coated bullets is probably your best option. 223 simply because heavy needs a fast twist rate and fast twist rate and soft bullet is a bad combination at high velocity. IdeaIdeally you would want a heavy soft bullet for sub-sonic use but you are not going to be able to find any in. Most of them list a description for each bullet detailing it's intended use and it's intended velocity range. 223 I suggest you go to the various bullet manufacturer web sites and do some research. They are accurate and expand well.įor you. Heres what Hodgdons load data yields for. Anyone have information on subsonic loads for 223/5. if they made a v-max 22lr i would be contempt. Hodgdon Trail Boss is a great smokeless powder for cartridges like the old 45-70 Government or subsonic load in. but i think a 223 subsonic with a good bullet will be much more devastating. If you want to use a subsonic 223 on game/varmints I would recommend instead 22LR sub hollow points or the new CCI segmented hollow points that split into 3 fragments.Mostly because i like experimenting. (definitely haven't tried them all though) Ballistic tips may lose the plastic tip or bend it sideways, but otherwise the bullets could be recovered and re-used if you really wanted to. 224 dia bullet that will mushroom or even distort when shot into water at subsonic velocities. Make sure you have good round holes-nothing to indicate yaw or wobble especially close to the muzzle to prevent baffle strikes and subsequent destruction of your high-dollar suppressor.ĮTA: I have not found a single. Try any sub loads first by shooting through cardboard at the muzzle, at 10 feet and downrange WITHOUT THE SUPPRESSOR. I know there has been commercial sub ammo that claims it will cycle, but I've never seen proof nor any reliable confirmation on a forum. In my experience, you won't ever get subs to cycle an AR without major mods to the gun itself. 4.5 gr TB will give occasional supersonic crack, but 4.4 seems to be consistent subsonic here in Louisiana. 223 SUPRESSED.ANY IDEASġ6" and 20" 1/9 twist AR's-4.4gr Trailboss, CCI 41 mil primer, 55gr bullet.
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